- many of the bishops of the church of england've said that, "jesus isn't divine" - 48:30
- i too'll say sumthngs that will annoy, sumthngs that maybe muslims don't wanna hear, sumthngs that maybe christians don't wanna hear - 48:45
- but ask urself, is it bcz "WASN'T TRUE?" or, "WHY DOES IT BOTHER ME?" if u don't lyk to hear wht i said - 48:55
- mr. deedat didn't pay me to cum here. i asked'em, "who's paying4 ths trip?". he said, "we can't afford it". alri8. that is the end of that. SO NOBODY PAID ME to CUM HERE - 49:40
- U CAN'T EVER PAINT ALL CHRISTIANS WITH 1BRUSH. WHN IT C'M FRM EXTREME 2D OTHER. NY 2DIFFERENCES U CAN THINK OF, THR'LL BE PPL'N BETWEEN THS 2EXTREMES - 50:35
....... evangelist .......
- term: EVANGELIST - 51:05
- i prefer that u don't use that word. bcz as carefully as ever i looked 2d bible i never found the word evangelist'n the lips of jesus - 51:25
- if u wanna call urself an evangelist, be my guest! me? i prefer not to - 51:35
- my credentials, by wht authority & power did i speak abt islam & christianity - 51:55
- it's a very unchristian thn 2do - 52:10
- that is wht the jews & romans & so on used 2ask abt the disciples of jesus (Matthew 21:23) - 52:15
- whn the disciples tried to preach, the romans or the jews'ld say, "by wht authority do u preach? wht school did u go2? u'r just a fisherman how do u dare to speak?" - 52:25
### u wanna convert the muslims to christianity? but luk wht ur doing instead - 54:10
- THE MISSIONARY WANTS THE MUSLIMS 2START THINKING. SO HE ASKS SUM QUESTIONS. HE HAS DISCUSSIONS & SO'N. HE PLANTS LITTLE SEEDS. BUT THE MISSIONARY DOESN'T TELL THE MUSLIMS WHT TO THINK. HE JUST WANTS THE MUSLIMS 2START THINKING - 54:30
- HE DOESN'T TELL'EM WHT TO THINKG BCZ USUALLY HASN'T THOUGHT ABT IT HIMSELF - 54:50
- examples - 55:00
1. missionary, "does the qur'an says that jesus a.w.s. was sinless?". The muslim, "yes. perfect man. never sinned". missionary, "does the qur'an told muhammad s.a.w. 2repent?". muslim, "yes". That's all. missionary doesn't say nythn else. he hopes now the muslim's gonna start thinking, "well, wait a min, jesus never sinned but muhammad upposed to repent. maybe jesus was better". he's hoping. but he doesn't dare say that. bcz if he says, "A SINLESS MAN'S BETTER THN A REPENTED SINNER". if he dares to say that, he goes exactly against the teachings of jesus. if he's foolish enough to say that, he goes exactly against the teachings of jesus.
- my advice to muslims, if sumbody asks u those questions, u ask'em 2tell u "d story of story of prodigal sons" (luke 15:24): THE PERFECT MAN DOESN'T HAVE ANY PREFERENCE OVER THE SINLESS MAN OR THE REPENTED SINNER. ask'em 2tell u that story & ask'em wht's the lesson of that story - 55:55
### in fact ths whole argument wouldn't exist if both muslims & christians'r better aware of the meaning of the word SIN - 57:45
2. The missionary, "Was jesus the messiah?". muslim, "yes". missionary, "Was muhammad the messiah?". muslim, "no". thr he stops again. hoping the muslim'll go away & think, "now, wait a min, jesus's messiah but muhammad isn't. maybe jesus's better" - 58:00
- ask'em, "jesus was messsiah but'r thr ny other messaih besides jesus?" - 58:25
- David, Solomon even Cyrus the persia (isaiah 45:1) - 58:35
- it's hard 2find'n the bible bcz the translators covered it over. they translated the word - 58:40
- messiah = anointed. somebody picked picked 2do a job - 58:40
- every king of ancient israel's called messiah - 58:45
- i'm trying to show u that the arguments rn't good enough that are being used & i see'em print all the tym - 59:00
3. The missionary asks the muslim, "whr's the body of jesus?". muslim says, "god took it". missionary, "whr's the body of muhammad?". muslim, "it's'n madina'n the ground". missionary stops hoping the muslim'll go away & think, "now that is interesting the body of jesus's gone muhammad's in the grave. maybe jesus's the true msngr, muhammad's false". he's hoping that u'll think that but he dare not say it - 59:10
- ask the missionary, "is that what u mean to say? do u mean that a dead & a buried prophet's a false prophet? is that wht u mean?" - 59:40
- bcz if that is wht he means, wht does he say abt ibrahim (abraham) a.w.s. for example? - 59:50
- jews & muslim still now still go to the place whr he's buried. dey visit thr grave. IS HE A FALSE PROPHET BCZ HE'S BURIED IN THE GROUND? For that matter whr's the body of moses a.w.s.? The bible says god took it. He send an angel to take the body away. WHT DOES IS PROVE? - 01:00:00
....... u'r saved not by work but by faith .......
- missionary has always accused the muslima, dey used to say, "u ppl believed ur saved by works alone" & dey quote the quran - 01:00:45
# as-sajdah,19 (& 4ths who believe & do good works, 4'em gardens'r refuge & entertainment 4wht dey used to do) - 01:01:00
- dey quote ths verse saying, "u c muslims dey'r saved by works alone" - 01:01:20
- DEY BELIVE & DEY GOOD WORKS. The two'r together - 01:01:30
- u c'n arab language the only has 2change a little bit & it bcms a different part of speech - 01:01:35
- amanu = dey believe, eman (made from the same letters) = wht u believe, ur belief, your faith - 01:01:45
- wht ths verse's saying's, "U'VE GOTTA'VE FAITH & WORKS". side by side. not 1 not the other, but both. which's exactly wht found in the bible (james 2:26) - 01:01:55
# james 2:26 (4as the body apart frm the spirit's dead so faith apart frm works's dead) - 01:02:30
- DON'T TELL THE MUSLIM, "HE BELIEVE HE'S SAVED BY THE WORKS ALONE". he doesn't believe it. & he only thinks ur foolish bcz u think that that is what it says'n the quran whn u quote it 2'em - 01:02:40
- so far my points'r simply ths that discussions
1. The sinless jesus or,
2. Jesus the messiah or,
3. Jesus taken'n to heaven or,
4. Faith & works
Don't prove anything. They aren't arguments that they aren't gonna lead somewhere - 01:02:55
- THINK!!! - 01:03:10
- NOT JUST SAY THAT THE MAN'S EXPERT I DON'T KNW - 01:03:15
- THINK!!! - 01:03:15
- IT ISN'T HOW MUCH U KNW IT'S WHT U DO WITH WHT U KNW. HOW MUCH U USE UR HEAD - 01:03:20
# isaiah 1:18 (c'm let's reason 2gthr) - 01:03:25
....... Qur'an's very critical of sum jews & christians .......
- Not all. Some Jews & Christians, the Qur'an is critical of them - 01:03:40
- The muslim has every reason to believe that ths's true when he just looks wht's offered in literature when he goes on to a book store that sells bibles & he finds out so many different versions & if he looks carefully, he sees that THE NEWER BIBLES LEAVE OUT SUM OF WORDS THAT'RE IN THE OLDER BIBLES & THE NEWER BIBLES HAVE SOME WORDS THAT AREN TN THE OLDER BIBLES. Something is going on & it looks funny to them & he thinks of this verse from Qur'an - 01:04:20
- Many'll go away & will say, "I stood here & I insult bible translators". Because it's the translators of the bible that do that - 01:04:50
- I'M NOT. I WOULD Be HAPPY TO INSULT A FEW! BECUSE THEY DO THS KINDS OF THINGS. THEY ARE GUILTY OF MANIPULATION - 01:05:00
- Jesus used to talk to a crowed of people, He told theem what He wanted to tell them & often He used to, if he saw someone in the audience that is misleading people, He pointed them out saying, "That one is a liar!" - 01:05:10- He wasn't diplomatic. that's y he got'n to so much trouble frm place to place - 01:05:25
- Because when He saw a liar, He point them out as such. I'M NOT GONNA DO THAT BUT I'M JUST SHOWING YOU - 01:05:30
- IF U SPEAK HARSHLY OF SOMEONE, YOUR ONLY FOLLOWING THE EXAMPLE OF CHRIST. he found that thr's a tym & place to single out the ppl who lead others into unbelief - 01:05:35- Some translators of the bible are honest & the fight with thir contemporaries over the proper translations to say, "Changed that, it should be this". They find about it - 01:05:45
- Two of the example are EDGAR J. GOODSPEED & JAMES MOFFATT. Who's bibles are printed in their own names because no church would back them up. They were too honest - 01:06:55# ali-imran,4 (criterion) - 01:06:15
- it explains the 3rd verse that THE QUR'AN'S SUPPOSED 2B USED AS THE BASIS OF JUDGING WHICH'S TRUE & WHICH'S FALSE'N THR SCRIPTURES - 01:06:25
# al-maidah,15 (revealed wht dey used to hide) - 01:06:30
- but dey do quote sum of the qur'an back 2d muslims but dey do it badly - 01:06:45
- DEY QUOTE THE QUR'AN BADLY TO SERVE THR PURPOSE - 01:06:50
- THR'S NO ESCAPING. THE QUR'AN SYS THE JEWS & THE CHRISTIANS HIDE THINGS, DEY CHANGE THINGS & SO ON. SO THR'S NO SENSE'N TRYING 2FIND A VERSE SUMWHR 2PROVE THAT, "NO! NO! THE QUR'AN SAYS THAT EVERYTHN'N THE BIBLE'S TRUE". THAT'S WHT PPL DO - 01:06:55
- means: & we sent down 2u the book'n truth, confirming that which that dey possessed of the book b4... - 01:07:30
- The christians say, "u c thr the qur'an says that be bible's true". dey say, "d qur'an was sent down 2confirm 2say it's truthful what dey've'n thr book". that's what that sentence says if u stop thr - 01:07:40
- BUT THAT'S THE MIDDLE OF THE SENTENCE! THERE iS to MORE WORDS'N THE SENTENCE! - 01:07:55
- A WATCHER OVER IT - 01:08:15
- MUHAIMINAN's an interesting word. it means QUALITY CONTROL - 01:08:20
- u use a form of that word to designate a man'n a factory who stand at the end of the assembly line & finds the rejects & throws'em out - 01:08:05
- whole text - The qur'an confirms that which's truthful'n thr book & it's the QUALITY CONTROL AGENT - 01:08:35
- IT'S THE PART THAT CHOOSE U WHICH PARTS RN'T TRUE - 01:08:45
- u don't fool a muslim by quoting that. it's a dishonest quote - 01:08:50
- muslims 2d missionary, "u've changed the scriptures" - 01:09:05
- missionary says, "o how can u say that? how could u as a muslim change the Qur'an? u couldn't do that. how could i change the bible?" - 01:09:10
- The answer's very easy. bible isn't the same thing as qur'an for 3 different reasons - 01:09:20
1. The qur'an has always been'n the hands of the ppl. always. frm the tym of the prophet, ppl wrote it down if he could write & memorized & so on. always in the hands of the ppl. nobody eva disagreed'n wht'r the contents. the prophet died, his friends meet & dey agreed by gathering'n the writings dey had. day said, "ths's the qur'an" & nobody disputed. nobody said, "u left sumthn out" or "no ths doesn't belong". nobody argued. from the beginning - 01:09:30
- The bible doesn't hv that history. the bible has been the property of the church, not the ppl. The 1st table of contents 2d bible that reads the same as the contents of the bible now, dates frm the yr 3607. more thn 300 yrs after jesus. finally dey decided which books belonged'n the bible - 01:09:55
2. The bible's'n dead languages. The qur'an's'n the living language. 120 million ppl speak arabic. The language of the qur'an. The bible's written'n ancient hebrew, ancient aramaic & ancient greek. which nobody speaks. a handful of scholars knw it. so as to change it, is an easy thing. if u'r a translator, 2read 1thn & tell sumbody sumthn else. that is easy - 01:10:15
3. thr has never been so much as a letter'n dispute abt the Qur'an. no1 has even so much has said, ths letter's wrong'n ur copy of the qur'an. unless it's a misprint. but nobody eva disputes, "it'ld be ths, it'ld be that" & dey've a battle ova it - 01:10:40
- whereas the bible has c'm down frm many many manuscripts. ny bible that is worth buying's filled with footnotes. almost every pages thr's footnotes. so u read the verse, footnote. read down here says, "or ths verse mi8 b" & it gives u an alternate translation of wht other manuscripts says - 01:11:00
footnotes
....... concept of doubting the authenticity of the bible .......
- To doubt the authenticity of the bible isn't a muslim idea - 01:11:30
- it isn't muslims who bc'm the enemies of the bible sumhow - 01:11:30
- DEY RN'T ENEMIES OF THE BIBLE - 01:11:35
- The doubtful authenticity of the bible'n an old idea found within the bible. IT'S A BIBLICAL IDEA - 01:11:40
- if u ask the question... "who wrote the bible? who took the ink & the pen & put the words in the page? who did that?" - 01:11:50
- The answer's, "scribes". That was thr job'n ancient tyms. dey wrote the scriptures - 01:12:00
- jeremiah 8:8 talks abt the scribes - 01:12:05
- sum jews'll tell u that jeremiah's the only authentic book left'n the whole bible - 01:12:10
- i don't believe that myself - 01:12:15
- but that's how sure dey'r abt jeremiah. THE MOST AUTHENTIC BOOK'N THE BIBLE - 01:12:20
- jeremiah 8:8 (false pen of the scribes, lie) - 01:12:25
- Whr are these lies if everythn in the bible's legitimate? - 01:12:50
- The muslim agrees with most churches - 01:13:55
- most churches say, "Yes the bible contains the words of god & sum other words beside beside that" - 01:13:00
- It's only a minority christian position who would say, "Every word in the bible came from god. none of it came frm man". it's a minority view but it seems 2b the view but it seems 2b view that the missionary feels that he has to sell. even if he doesn't believe it himself - 01:13:15- thr's many ways of establishing that fact but basic point's made'n isaiah, 40:8 - 01:13:30
- ths's a verse that sum ppl lyk so much, the bible i've thr's the new american standard, dey put it'n the inside front cover - 01:13:35
- isaiah, 40:8 (stands 4eva) - 01:13:45
- it's saying that IF it's the WORD of GOD, it DOESN'T get LOTS. it STANDS 4EVA - 01:13:55
- god says it, it'll always be thr. according to ths verse - 01:14:00
- but the churches'ld say that the bible's totally wiTHout error, will always modify that by saying that dey bible to be INERRANT, that's WITHOUT ERROR, INERRANT in the ORIGINAL MANUSCRIPT. not the manuscripts that we'VE 2DAY. in the ORIGINAL - 01:14:05
- so, if u show sum1, "look, ths DISAGREES with that, ths's INCORRECT & so'n". he can tell u, "that's TURE. that's a MISTAKE. but that MISTAKE wasn't'n the ORIGINAL" - 01:14:25
- ask'em, "how did the MISTAKES get here?" - 01:14:35
- he'll tell u, "d ORIGINAL got LOST" - 01:14:35
- well thn the ORIGINAL was NOT the word of God if it got LOST. was it??? - 01:14:40
# isaiah 40:8 says, "if god SAYS it DOESN'T get LOST" - 01:14:45
- The verse doesn't say, "d grass withers & the flower fades but the word of our god stands 4eva EXCEPT 4FEW LITTLE DETAILS" - 01:14:50
- thr's no qualification - 01:14:55
- books've been written documenting the errors & yet ths excuse still offered - 01:15:00
- u c missionary'ld only make ths concession if he'ld only say, "alri8 not all of the bible came from god". HE'LL BE MORE BELIEVABLE - 01:15:05
- MIRACLE OF THS BOOK ISN'T THE BIBLE, THE PPL BELIEVE IT CAME FRM GOD, THAT'S THE MIRACLE - 01:15:30
- bcz'n ONE HAND ppl r trying to tell, "IT'S PERFECT". in the OTHER HAND dey'll tell u, "NOT ACCEPT HERE IT ISN'T PERFECT & SO'N BUT THAT'S BCZ IT GOT LOST & SO'N" - 01:15:40
- IT'S AN EXCUSE THAT'S INCONSISTENT WITH THE CLAIM - 01:15:45
- if a missionary'ld say, "not everythin that we call the scripture, should be called scripture". if he'ld only says that, it'll be more believable - 01:15:50
- if it's upsetting, ask urself, "why? did i make a mistake? That said s'mthn that isn't ture. if so, wht's it???" - 01:16:05
- we've to always decide whn s'mbody's having a conversation with us, R DAY EXPLAINING IT OR R DAY PROVING IT? - 01:17:15
- pp usually fool themselves, dey explaining it but dey think that dey'r proving it - 01:17:25
- u ask s'mbody, "how do u knw jesus died 4ur sins, wht's the prove?" - 01:17:30
- he starts 2tell u abt, "u c, god's holy. man's a sinner. jesus has to die & so'n". THAT'S NOT THE PROVE. THAT'S EXPLANATION. THAT'S HOW IT SUPPOSED TO WORK. HOW DO U KNW IT HAPPENED? - 01:17:35
- The catolic church tend to look to the authorities other than the scripture. the bible - 01:17:45
- don't be confused - 01:17:55
- thr's 1thng i wish i could hammer'n everybody's head is ths idea... - 01:18:55
- EXPLANATION ISN'T THE SAME AS PROVE - 01:18:00
....... man has 2've his sins redeemed .......- "god's 100% holy. 100% HOLY. u'r SINNER. god CAN'T DEAL with u DIRECTLY bcz, he's 100% HOLY & u'r CERTAIN % SINNER". it's an explanation. IT'S AN EXPLANATION. but IS it TRUE? - 01:18:15
- think abt it. if i told u, "in NY city's the holiest man that eva lived. i'ld talk abt it 4an hour maybe & i'ld build up a reputation & say, HE'S THE HOLIEST HUMAN BEING THAT EVA LIVED". finally u'ld say, "well i'm gonna save my money. i'm gonna go to NY city & meet'em. i wanna shake his hand". i'ld tell u, "no! not! no! he won't even let u c'm'n a same room with them. he's too holy. he can talk to his secretary. but he couldn't stand look@u. he's too holy!". now wht'ld u think of ths man? IS HE HOLY? OR, IS HE CRAZY? - 01:18:35
- EXPLANATION'S AN EXPLANATION. IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE TRUE BUT PROVE IS S'MTHN ELSE - 01:19:10
....... DID JESUS SAY SO? .......
- i get'n to a discussion with a man who used2've a radio program'n the bible. so i asked'em if 'ld prove to me s'm of the things he believed. he said, "i don't hve a bible". i said, "i've1 here". i put the bible which's called the RED LETTER EDITION.
They put all the words of jesus'n RED INK. & i asked them, "do u believe such & such?". & said, "certainly & here's the prove". & he opened up the bible & he read me s'mthn. frm the BLACK INK. & i kept saying, "show me'n the RED INK. DID JESUS SAY THAT THN? I KNW PAUL SAID IT & i knw ths & that & the other thing. DID JESUS SAY THAT THING U TOLD ME U BELIEVE?". & he kept stroking my bible lyk a pet cat. he was very fond of it. but i kept pushing that way. i kept saying, "DID JESUS SAY IT?". certainly he didn't lyk the bible nymore & he threw it back'n my face. he said, "U KNW WHT UR PROBLEM'S? U WON'T BELIEVE IT UNLESS JESUS SAID IT" - 01:19:25
- YES THAT'S MY PROBLEM. IT'LD BE HIS PROBLEM - 01:20:20
- HOW DOES HE DARE TO TEACH S'MTHN & CALL HIMSELF A CHRISTIAN IF HE CAN'T SHOW THAT JESUS SAID THS THING THAT HE'S TALKING ABT - 01:20:25
- it'ld be easy to find if jesus s'm of the things ppl say, "he said". should be easy to find" - 01:20:35
- do u knw if u took all the words of jesus reportedd'n the bible & eliminate the duplications, bcz uv'e THE SAME STORY BASICALLY TOLD 4 TYMS, u eliminate the duplications, THE TOTAL OF ALL THE WORDS OF JESUS DON'T EVEN FILL 2 COLUMNS OF THE NEWS PAPER. it isn't very many words. so if he said this different things, u don't really've a lot of work to look down & find'em - 01:20:40
- dey bring out a hand full of thr favorite verses - 01:21:25
1. john 3:16 (jesus, only begotten son) ... vs ... hebrew 11:17 (isaac, only begotten son)
2. john 8:58 (before abraham was, i am) ... vs ... exodus 3:4 (moses said, "here i'm")
3. john 10:30 (i & the father'r 1) ... vs ... john 17:21 (all of 'em mayb 1)
4. john 14:9 (philip, anyone who has seen me has seen the father, show us the father) ... vs ... john 5:18 (if the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me 1st)
5. john 20:28 (thomas, my lord & my lord) ... vs ... exodus 7:1 (u lyk god to pharaoh)
- For everyoe of this verses, there is another verse which if you put it ri8 beside that verse, u'll find out wht thr trying to say, WON'T WORK - 01:21:35
- u put ths beside ths verses & argument dissolves among others - 01:22:55
- IT DOESN'T PROVE THE DIVINITY OF JESUS. doesn't mean he isn't divine. ths things don't do the job. that's the problem. i'm not saying that he isn't divine, i'm saying, "i still wanna c the prove" - 01:22:05
- The real test of sincerity was wht disappointed me - 01:22:20
- s'mdbody'll shows u, john 14:9 fr example, jesus said, "philip, if u seen me, u've seen the father". so i asked'em, "how's he said'n the other place to a grp of ppl, u ppl've never seen the father? don't tell me'n ths place me means he's god whn'n ths place he told the ppl who'r looking@it, u've never seen god? he must've meant s'mthn else" - 01:22:25
- u tell s'mbody that & he'll say, "ok u've a point. wht abt ths verse?". & dey go to another verse. it's fine - 01:22:50
- but next week s'mbody'll c'm to that same man & 'ld say, "whr's the prove that jesus said that he was god?". he'll read john 14:9. ri8 BACK whr he STARTED frm. a verse which a week ago he told me WASN'T GOOD ENOUGH. it'll be GOOD ENOUGH fr s'mbody else bcz he HOPES he DOESN'T KNW THE RESPONSE I'D - 01:22:55
- u knw, IF U TOOK ALL THE WORDS OF JESUS & U CUT'EM OUTTA BIBLE WITH SCISSORS & THN I GIVE U S'M PASTE & TELL U PUT'EM BACK 2GETHR NYWY U LYK. U STILL CAN'T MAKE'EM SPELL OUT THE TRINITY. IT STILL DOESN'T SAY NYTHN ABT IT. NO MATTER HOW U CHANGE THS WORDS - 01:23:20
....... evolution of trinity .......
- The trinity's an evolved understanding. The church didn't understand ths deep thought @1st. The understanding evolved over the centuries. it was discussed. ppl came to understand it & believe it - 01:23:40
- but if that's wht u say, u shouldn't say'n the other hand, "jesus used to preach it" - 01:23:55
- if u tell me, "ppl didn't figure it out fr 200 yrs". don't tell me, "jesus preached it" - 01:24:00
- so dey'ld say, "no! no! he preached it. but, it isn't'n the bible. he used to preach it to his disciples". u told'em abt it - 01:24:05
# john 18:20 (i said nothing'n secret) - 01:24:20
- "everything i'd to say, i said'n the market place" - 01:24:20
- he didn't tell his disciples ny secrets - 01:24:25
- ppl told me, "ur problem's u rn't spiritual enough. believe! thn it's seays! believe!" - 01:24:35
- A PERSON CAN'T MAKE THEMSELVES BELIEVE IF DEY KNW BETTER - 01:24:40
- wht s'mtyms happen to human beings dey get pains. thr head's hurting. dey go to a doctor. dey say, "i got ths pain. it won't go away". The doctor makes s'm tests. a full examination. maybe s'm x-rays & he finds nothing wrong. so he realizes, the man's problem's mental. it's imaginary pain. he doesn't tell the man that. he gives'em a placebo. dey'r things that look lyk pills but dey'r only milk-sugar. just sugar. he goes to his patient thn he says, "we made s'm tests, ths's the medicine u need. take ths pills & in 1day ur pain'ld stop. it almost always does". bcz the man thinks he's getting s'm medicines & so his mental abilities get rid of the pain. That's a placebo. it works that's way - 01:24:45
- I CAN'T DO THE SAME THING WITH BELIEVE THOUGH. I CAN'T MANUFACTURE IT - 01:24:35
- u c, if the doctor came to me & said, u c ur problem's mental. i've s'm sugar pills here. BELIEVE THAT THS R MEDICINE WITH ALL UR HEART. BELIEVE THAT DEY'R MEDICINE. TRY VERY HARD & WHN U BELIEVE THAT DEY'R MEDICINE, THE PAIN'LL GO AWAY. I CAN'T DO IT. he told me it's sugar. I KNW BETTER - 01:25:40
- so the same way, it isn't satisfactory if s'mbody c'ms 2u & say, "believe! believe! believe!" - 01:26:00
- HOW CAN U BELIEVE IF U KNW BETTER? - 01:26:05
- "FAITH OVERC'MS", ppl told me. "faith overc'ms" - 01:26:10
- "u must be born again" - 01:26:15
....... conception of born again .......
- I DON'T KNOW HOW DOES THS WORK. WHR'S THE PROVE'N THE SCRIPTURE - 01:56:22
# brought me romans chapter 8 - 01:26:25
- paul says, "if u'r born again wht happens's, the spirit of god c'ms'n to u & it tells u that god's now ur father & so u cry out, ABBA (FATHER)" - 01:26:30
- abba = father, in aramaic - 01:26:50
- thr's only1 othr place that paul talks abt ABBA - 01:27:00
- paul says, "d spirit of god c'ms within u. u bcm a child of god. u call out to god abba (father). now god's ur father" & he goes'n to say, "now u've a new mother also" - 01:27:05
- GOD'S UR FATHER & U'VE A MOTHER - 01:27:25
- since 1969 till then, 15 yrs, i've yet to meet sum1 who's born again & ask'em, "who's ur father?". dey say, "god". i say, "who's ur mother?". DEY DON'T KNW - 01:27:30
- Y NOT? IT'S'N THE BIBLE. it says u've a new mother if u born again - 01:27:40
- y did the spirit of god came within u & forgot to tell u, "who's ur mother?". IT'S THR. LETS U FIND IT. IT'S THR - 01:27:45
- u c, in islam, if u CALL a MAN, a LIAR, u BETTER'VE PROVE or U'R d1 that's'n TROUBLE - 01:27:55
....... god's the father of jesus christ .......
- ppl asks me, "who's the father of jesus?". i say, "he didn't hve a father". dey say, "well thn u c mary's the mother, god's the father"
- 01:28:35
- i say, "u mean mary's the wife of god?". "no!". dey'r horrified. "no!". "god's the father, mary's the mother". thn i ask'em, "his parents weren't married though?". "no! god doesn't take a wife" - 01:28:40
- dey say, "jesus called god father". i always ask ppl to tell me, "wht do u call god?". probably it's, "father" - 01:29:00
- ppl do say that, "we pray our father" - 01:29:10
- "but he called himself son of god", they say. & i tell'em, "yes! & he told lots of other ppl son of god" - 01:29:15
# matthew 5:9 (peacemakers, sons of god) - 01:29:20
....... crucifixion .......
....... jesus paid the price 4our sins .......
- dyophysitism = two natures - 01:32:40
- That's an old trick. whn u don't knw the answer, put a label'n it - 01:32:45
- in ancient greece, the greeks, 2500 ago came to a scientist with a question. dey observed that, U EAT FOOD IT GOES THROUGH THE SYSTEM & S'M OF IT C'MS OUT. dey wanted to knw which part of wht i take'n's the part thatfeeds me bcz evidantly i don't need all of it. WHICH'S THE NUTRITIVE FACULTY OF THE FOOD? & the scientist didn't knw so dey said, "THE PART THAT FEEDS U'S THE NUTRITIVE FACULTY OF THE FOOD". it's lyk saying, "D PART THAT FEEDS U'S THE PART THAT FEEDS U". That's all. it's a label. it doesn't answer nythn - 01:32:45
....... nonmuslim conception of muhammad s.a.w. .......
- thr r books & books written abt muhammad that tell u, "1THING WE KNW SURE ABT THS MAN, HE'D AN OUTSIDE SOURCE OF INFORMATION" - 01:33:50
- one book i've got says, "qur'an was written by a committee" - 01:33:55
- bcz it was established so well, thr's information'n thr that an arabian shouldn't hve knwn. he must've s'm1'n the outside bringing'em the information. so says, "1THING WE KNW 4SURE THAT HE'D AN OUTSIDE SOURCE OF INFORMATION" - 01:34:00
- he said, "THS BOOK'S REVOLUTION" - 01:34:10
- so dey say, "U C? HE'S A LIAR! HE GOT IT FRM S'MWHR, HE PUT IT'N A BOOK & THN HE GAVE IT TO SOMEONE, TELLING'EM IT'S FRM GOD" - 01:34:15
- HE'S A LIAR - 01:34:20
- other ppl writes books & books'n the subject of muhammad & dey say, "1THING WE KNW 4SURE HE THOUGHT HE'S A PROPHET. HE'S CRAZY" - 01:34:25
# HE'S CRAZY - 01:34:35
- bcz dey look@ his lyf very carefully & dey c episodes lyk 4example: whn he hide'n the cave with abu baqr as-siddique r.a.a. he's running frm the whole city who wanted to kill'em & he hide'n the cave & whn the makkan's c'm running up to the cave to kill'em, wht did he say to his friend? did he tell'em, "C IF U CAN FIND A WAY BACK OUTTA THE CAVE"? wht he told his friend was, "RELAX". he's telling'em, "I C WHT U C". but he said, "GOD'S WITH US! GOD'LL SAVE US". so ppl'n that basis, dey say, "U C? HE THOUGHT HE'S A PROPHET. HE THOUGHT GOD'S WITH THEM. BCZ HE SAID THINGS LYK THAT. HE WASN'T A LIAR" - 01:34:35
- dey never seemed to realize that, I MAN CAN'T BE BOTH - 01:35:15
# c, u CANT BE a LIAR & a CRAZY man @D SAME TYM - 01:35:20
- if u think that an angel gives the words of god'n ur ear & s'mbody says, "i've a question 4u, wht does god tell u abt ths thing? i want an answer 2morrw. if u'r crazy man & u think it's an angel whispers'n ur ear, thn u don't sit up that ni8 thinking, "wht'll i tell'em 2morrw? wht can i find? who knws the answer?". u'r crazy. u think that angel'll tell u the answer. u don't go & look @up s'mwhr - 01:35:25
# u c, u CANT BE a LIAR & a CRAZY man @D SAME TYM - 01:35:55
# u CAN be ONE or the OTHER or NEITHER. but u CAN'T be BOTH - 01:36:00
- i read two non-muslim biographies of muhammad. one's maxime rodinson who hated the man but many interesting thing c'm up abt his lyf that i'd to wonder abt. 1story that's told's that... - 01:36:05
- whn he was an older man, he'd a son named ibrahim (abraham). The son died when the child's 2 yrs old. The same day the boy died thr's eclipse of the son. sky went dark & the muslims came running to the prophet & said, "LOOK IT'S A MIRACLE. UR CHILD DIED & THE SKY DARK'N HIS SADNESS" - 01:36:25
- It occurred to me; See; if He is a CRAZY MAN, he probably BELIEVED what day said. He probably said, "YES! IT'S A MIRACLE! MY CHILD DIED THE SKY'S DARK! YES! IT'S A MIRACLE". if he's a CRAZY MAN - 01:36:50
- if he's a LIAR, he would've TAKEN ADVANTAGE of IT. he would've said, "YES! RI8! MY CHILD DIED, THE SKY'S DARK U TELL EVERY1 IT PROVES I'M A PROPHET. IT'S A MIRACLE" - 01:37:00
- but wht did he do? he bcm ANGRY WITH the MUSLIMS. he told'em that's NONSENSE. he's ANGRY WITH THEM, "HOW DARE SAY THAT?". He said, "The son & the moon'r signs of god & dey don't worry themselves abt the birth of the man or the death of the son of muhammad" - 01:37:10
- DOESN'T look VERY CRAZY. DOESN'T look lyk a LIAR - 01:37:30
- now u've a 3rd alternative of course which ppl tell u all the tym - 01:37:30
- dey say, "no he wasn't a LIAR. he wasn't a CRAZY MAN. he was DECEIVED by the DEVIL" - 01:37:35
- YES THAT'S MY PROBLEM. IT'LD BE HIS PROBLEM - 01:20:20
- HOW DOES HE DARE TO TEACH S'MTHN & CALL HIMSELF A CHRISTIAN IF HE CAN'T SHOW THAT JESUS SAID THS THING THAT HE'S TALKING ABT - 01:20:25
- it'ld be easy to find if jesus s'm of the things ppl say, "he said". should be easy to find" - 01:20:35
- do u knw if u took all the words of jesus reportedd'n the bible & eliminate the duplications, bcz uv'e THE SAME STORY BASICALLY TOLD 4 TYMS, u eliminate the duplications, THE TOTAL OF ALL THE WORDS OF JESUS DON'T EVEN FILL 2 COLUMNS OF THE NEWS PAPER. it isn't very many words. so if he said this different things, u don't really've a lot of work to look down & find'em - 01:20:40
- dey bring out a hand full of thr favorite verses - 01:21:25
contradictions
1. john 3:16 (jesus, only begotten son) ... vs ... hebrew 11:17 (isaac, only begotten son)
2. john 8:58 (before abraham was, i am) ... vs ... exodus 3:4 (moses said, "here i'm")
3. john 10:30 (i & the father'r 1) ... vs ... john 17:21 (all of 'em mayb 1)
5. john 20:28 (thomas, my lord & my lord) ... vs ... exodus 7:1 (u lyk god to pharaoh)
- For everyoe of this verses, there is another verse which if you put it ri8 beside that verse, u'll find out wht thr trying to say, WON'T WORK - 01:21:35
- u put ths beside ths verses & argument dissolves among others - 01:22:55
- IT DOESN'T PROVE THE DIVINITY OF JESUS. doesn't mean he isn't divine. ths things don't do the job. that's the problem. i'm not saying that he isn't divine, i'm saying, "i still wanna c the prove" - 01:22:05
- The real test of sincerity was wht disappointed me - 01:22:20
- s'mdbody'll shows u, john 14:9 fr example, jesus said, "philip, if u seen me, u've seen the father". so i asked'em, "how's he said'n the other place to a grp of ppl, u ppl've never seen the father? don't tell me'n ths place me means he's god whn'n ths place he told the ppl who'r looking@it, u've never seen god? he must've meant s'mthn else" - 01:22:25
- u tell s'mbody that & he'll say, "ok u've a point. wht abt ths verse?". & dey go to another verse. it's fine - 01:22:50
- but next week s'mbody'll c'm to that same man & 'ld say, "whr's the prove that jesus said that he was god?". he'll read john 14:9. ri8 BACK whr he STARTED frm. a verse which a week ago he told me WASN'T GOOD ENOUGH. it'll be GOOD ENOUGH fr s'mbody else bcz he HOPES he DOESN'T KNW THE RESPONSE I'D - 01:22:55
- u knw, IF U TOOK ALL THE WORDS OF JESUS & U CUT'EM OUTTA BIBLE WITH SCISSORS & THN I GIVE U S'M PASTE & TELL U PUT'EM BACK 2GETHR NYWY U LYK. U STILL CAN'T MAKE'EM SPELL OUT THE TRINITY. IT STILL DOESN'T SAY NYTHN ABT IT. NO MATTER HOW U CHANGE THS WORDS - 01:23:20
....... evolution of trinity .......
- The trinity's an evolved understanding. The church didn't understand ths deep thought @1st. The understanding evolved over the centuries. it was discussed. ppl came to understand it & believe it - 01:23:40
- but if that's wht u say, u shouldn't say'n the other hand, "jesus used to preach it" - 01:23:55
- if u tell me, "ppl didn't figure it out fr 200 yrs". don't tell me, "jesus preached it" - 01:24:00
- so dey'ld say, "no! no! he preached it. but, it isn't'n the bible. he used to preach it to his disciples". u told'em abt it - 01:24:05
# john 18:20 (i said nothing'n secret) - 01:24:20
- he didn't tell his disciples ny secrets - 01:24:25
- ppl told me, "ur problem's u rn't spiritual enough. believe! thn it's seays! believe!" - 01:24:35
- A PERSON CAN'T MAKE THEMSELVES BELIEVE IF DEY KNW BETTER - 01:24:40
- wht s'mtyms happen to human beings dey get pains. thr head's hurting. dey go to a doctor. dey say, "i got ths pain. it won't go away". The doctor makes s'm tests. a full examination. maybe s'm x-rays & he finds nothing wrong. so he realizes, the man's problem's mental. it's imaginary pain. he doesn't tell the man that. he gives'em a placebo. dey'r things that look lyk pills but dey'r only milk-sugar. just sugar. he goes to his patient thn he says, "we made s'm tests, ths's the medicine u need. take ths pills & in 1day ur pain'ld stop. it almost always does". bcz the man thinks he's getting s'm medicines & so his mental abilities get rid of the pain. That's a placebo. it works that's way - 01:24:45
- I CAN'T DO THE SAME THING WITH BELIEVE THOUGH. I CAN'T MANUFACTURE IT - 01:24:35
- u c, if the doctor came to me & said, u c ur problem's mental. i've s'm sugar pills here. BELIEVE THAT THS R MEDICINE WITH ALL UR HEART. BELIEVE THAT DEY'R MEDICINE. TRY VERY HARD & WHN U BELIEVE THAT DEY'R MEDICINE, THE PAIN'LL GO AWAY. I CAN'T DO IT. he told me it's sugar. I KNW BETTER - 01:25:40
- so the same way, it isn't satisfactory if s'mbody c'ms 2u & say, "believe! believe! believe!" - 01:26:00
- HOW CAN U BELIEVE IF U KNW BETTER? - 01:26:05
- "FAITH OVERC'MS", ppl told me. "faith overc'ms" - 01:26:10
- "u must be born again" - 01:26:15
....... conception of born again .......
- I DON'T KNOW HOW DOES THS WORK. WHR'S THE PROVE'N THE SCRIPTURE - 01:56:22
# brought me romans chapter 8 - 01:26:25
- paul says, "if u'r born again wht happens's, the spirit of god c'ms'n to u & it tells u that god's now ur father & so u cry out, ABBA (FATHER)" - 01:26:30
- abba = father, in aramaic - 01:26:50
- thr's only1 othr place that paul talks abt ABBA - 01:27:00
- paul says, "d spirit of god c'ms within u. u bcm a child of god. u call out to god abba (father). now god's ur father" & he goes'n to say, "now u've a new mother also" - 01:27:05
- GOD'S UR FATHER & U'VE A MOTHER - 01:27:25
- since 1969 till then, 15 yrs, i've yet to meet sum1 who's born again & ask'em, "who's ur father?". dey say, "god". i say, "who's ur mother?". DEY DON'T KNW - 01:27:30
- Y NOT? IT'S'N THE BIBLE. it says u've a new mother if u born again - 01:27:40
- y did the spirit of god came within u & forgot to tell u, "who's ur mother?". IT'S THR. LETS U FIND IT. IT'S THR - 01:27:45
....... god's the father of jesus christ .......
- ppl asks me, "who's the father of jesus?". i say, "he didn't hve a father". dey say, "well thn u c mary's the mother, god's the father"
- 01:28:35
- i say, "u mean mary's the wife of god?". "no!". dey'r horrified. "no!". "god's the father, mary's the mother". thn i ask'em, "his parents weren't married though?". "no! god doesn't take a wife" - 01:28:40
- dey say, "jesus called god father". i always ask ppl to tell me, "wht do u call god?". probably it's, "father" - 01:29:00
- ppl do say that, "we pray our father" - 01:29:10
- "but he called himself son of god", they say. & i tell'em, "yes! & he told lots of other ppl son of god" - 01:29:15
# matthew 5:9 (peacemakers, sons of god) - 01:29:20
....... crucifixion .......
- y did god've to bcm a man & die? - 01:29:35
- if a price has to be paid for our sins, y can't we just go find a sinless man & execute him & say, "there, the price is paid". To which people always say, "no! if a MAN DIES, it ISN'T ENOUGH. it has to be s'mn who's GOD & MAN". & so i always ask'em, "do u mean, GOD DIED?". dey say, "no! NO! no! ONLY THE MAN DIED!". BACK WHR WE STARTED FRM - 01:29:40
- man dies, it isn't good enough - 01:30:05
- The church's still discussing till ths day still not sure who died'n the cross - 01:30:10
- if a price has to be paid4 our sins, y can't we just go find a sinless man & execute'em & say, "thr, the price's paid". 2which ppl always say, "no! if a MAN DIES, it ISN'T ENOUGH. it has to be s'mn who's GOD & MAN". & so i always ask'em, "do u mean, GOD DIED?". dey say, "no! NO! no! ONLY THE MAN DIED!". BACK WHR WE STARTED FRM - 01:29:40
- WAS IT GOD? WAS IT MAN? WAS IT GOD-MAN? WHT WAS THE DEAL? - 01:30:15
- god doesn't die bcz it means changing frm 1state to another & god doesn't change frm 1state to another. he supposed to be immutable & so'n. still discussing that - 01:30:20
- dey say, "jesus paid the price 4ur sins" - 01:30:30
- in the lord's prayer, jesus taught his disciples how to pray. he said, "pray lyk ths". & one of the lines he told'em, he said pray to god say, "forgive us our sins as we forgive ths who sins against us" (matthew 6:12 & luke 11:4) - 01:30:35
- how do u forgive s'm who owes u a debt? - 01:30:55
- do u say, "u knw that money u owe me? forget it. now give me the money" - 01:31:00
- IF U FORGIVE IT THR'S NO PRICE. NOTHING'S PAID. IT'S FORGIVEN - 01:31:05
- if s'm1 slaps u & u forgive'em, that's the end of dat. but u don't say, "i forgive u4 slapping me, now c'm here i wanna slap u" - 01:31:15
....... god bc'm man .......
- abt 500 yrs ago thr was a jew'n europe, baruch spinoza was his name, philosopher & he wrote a gr8 deal. he made the same point thatppl r making 500 yrs b4'em. he was frustrated when the christians'ld c'm2'em & say, "god bcm man". he'ld say, "wht do u mean? god bcm man? i knw wht's god & i knw wht's man & i can't imagine that wht's god turned'n to a man. it isn't god nymore. he used2b god. now's a man. i can understand that & i believe that makes s'm sense". but that's not wht the church teaches - 01:31:25
- dey say, "god bcm man but he's still god". & that causes problem - 01:32:10
- if i've a bal of clay & i squeeze it & i put corners'n it & i make it'n to a cube. i can tell u, "u c the ball bcm a cube". but i can't tell u, "don't be fooled, it's still round" - 01:32:20
- it was 1thn & it bcm another thn, it isn't that then anymore - 01:32:30
- dey solve that by putting a label'n it. dey call it, "DYOPHYSITISM". doesn't prove nythn - 01:32:35
- dyophysitism = two natures - 01:32:40
- That's an old trick. whn u don't knw the answer, put a label'n it - 01:32:45
....... nonmuslim conception of muhammad s.a.w. .......
- thr r books & books written abt muhammad that tell u, "1THING WE KNW SURE ABT THS MAN, HE'D AN OUTSIDE SOURCE OF INFORMATION" - 01:33:50
- one book i've got says, "qur'an was written by a committee" - 01:33:55
- bcz it was established so well, thr's information'n thr that an arabian shouldn't hve knwn. he must've s'm1'n the outside bringing'em the information. so says, "1THING WE KNW 4SURE THAT HE'D AN OUTSIDE SOURCE OF INFORMATION" - 01:34:00
- he said, "THS BOOK'S REVOLUTION" - 01:34:10
- so dey say, "U C? HE'S A LIAR! HE GOT IT FRM S'MWHR, HE PUT IT'N A BOOK & THN HE GAVE IT TO SOMEONE, TELLING'EM IT'S FRM GOD" - 01:34:15
- HE'S A LIAR - 01:34:20
- other ppl writes books & books'n the subject of muhammad & dey say, "1THING WE KNW 4SURE HE THOUGHT HE'S A PROPHET. HE'S CRAZY" - 01:34:25
# HE'S CRAZY - 01:34:35
- bcz dey look@ his lyf very carefully & dey c episodes lyk 4example: whn he hide'n the cave with abu baqr as-siddique r.a.a. he's running frm the whole city who wanted to kill'em & he hide'n the cave & whn the makkan's c'm running up to the cave to kill'em, wht did he say to his friend? did he tell'em, "C IF U CAN FIND A WAY BACK OUTTA THE CAVE"? wht he told his friend was, "RELAX". he's telling'em, "I C WHT U C". but he said, "GOD'S WITH US! GOD'LL SAVE US". so ppl'n that basis, dey say, "U C? HE THOUGHT HE'S A PROPHET. HE THOUGHT GOD'S WITH THEM. BCZ HE SAID THINGS LYK THAT. HE WASN'T A LIAR" - 01:34:35
- dey never seemed to realize that, I MAN CAN'T BE BOTH - 01:35:15
# c, u CANT BE a LIAR & a CRAZY man @D SAME TYM - 01:35:20
- if u think that an angel gives the words of god'n ur ear & s'mbody says, "i've a question 4u, wht does god tell u abt ths thing? i want an answer 2morrw. if u'r crazy man & u think it's an angel whispers'n ur ear, thn u don't sit up that ni8 thinking, "wht'll i tell'em 2morrw? wht can i find? who knws the answer?". u'r crazy. u think that angel'll tell u the answer. u don't go & look @up s'mwhr - 01:35:25
# u c, u CANT BE a LIAR & a CRAZY man @D SAME TYM - 01:35:55
# u CAN be ONE or the OTHER or NEITHER. but u CAN'T be BOTH - 01:36:00
- i read two non-muslim biographies of muhammad. one's maxime rodinson who hated the man but many interesting thing c'm up abt his lyf that i'd to wonder abt. 1story that's told's that... - 01:36:05
- whn he was an older man, he'd a son named ibrahim (abraham). The son died when the child's 2 yrs old. The same day the boy died thr's eclipse of the son. sky went dark & the muslims came running to the prophet & said, "LOOK IT'S A MIRACLE. UR CHILD DIED & THE SKY DARK'N HIS SADNESS" - 01:36:25
- It occurred to me; See; if He is a CRAZY MAN, he probably BELIEVED what day said. He probably said, "YES! IT'S A MIRACLE! MY CHILD DIED THE SKY'S DARK! YES! IT'S A MIRACLE". if he's a CRAZY MAN - 01:36:50
- if he's a LIAR, he would've TAKEN ADVANTAGE of IT. he would've said, "YES! RI8! MY CHILD DIED, THE SKY'S DARK U TELL EVERY1 IT PROVES I'M A PROPHET. IT'S A MIRACLE" - 01:37:00
- but wht did he do? he bcm ANGRY WITH the MUSLIMS. he told'em that's NONSENSE. he's ANGRY WITH THEM, "HOW DARE SAY THAT?". He said, "The son & the moon'r signs of god & dey don't worry themselves abt the birth of the man or the death of the son of muhammad" - 01:37:10
- DOESN'T look VERY CRAZY. DOESN'T look lyk a LIAR - 01:37:30
- now u've a 3rd alternative of course which ppl tell u all the tym - 01:37:30
- dey say, "no he wasn't a LIAR. he wasn't a CRAZY MAN. he was DECEIVED by the DEVIL" - 01:37:35
# DECEIVED by the DEVIL - 01:37:45
- WHTEVER YOU SAY YOU BETTER BE READY TO BACK IT UP - 01:37:50
- thr's a lot of difficulties with that idea. 4example: the's a verse'n the qur'an (an-nahl,98) which tells the reader abt a good habit to develop. it tells'em, "b4 u read ths book, always say, i take refuge'n god frm satan the rejected" - 01:37:55
- who said, "b4 u read MY book, ask god to save u frm ME?" - 01:38:15
- is that satan who wrote that? - 1:38:20
# as jesus said, "if satan's divided against himself thn his kingdom'll fall" (matthew 12:26) - 01:38:25
- HE'S FIGHTING AGAINST HIS OWN INTEREST - 01:38:30
- AN EXPLANATION, S'MTHN S'MBODY TELLS U'S JUST SO MUCH AIR C'MING OUTTA HIS MOUTH UNLESS HE HAS PROVE & UNLESS HE OFFERS U S'MTHN THAT CAN USE to FALSIFY IT - 01:38:45
- thr's many theories of how do the planets go around the sun & how do the stars burn & all the rest of it. many theories. most of'em r so much wind. scientist payed no attention to'em. bcz dey don't contain s'mthn that'ld be checked to prove it false - 01:39:02
- einstein's considered an intelligent man bcz WHN HE OFFERED HIS THEORY'N 1905 & AGAIN'N 1915, HE DIDN'T JUST OFFERED A THEORY. HE SAID, "HERE'S THREE WAYS TO PROVE I'M WRONG". now it's worth listening2. he's telling, "here's 3 different things u can do, if u can do ths, i'm wrong. here u r!" - 01:39:20
- IS THR ANYTHING LYK THAT IN CHRISTIANITY? - 01:39:40
- HAS THE CHRISTIANS EVA SAID, "U WANNA PROVE I'M WRONG? ALL U'VE TO DO'S THS". HAD DEY EVA DONE THAT? - 01:39:40
- The Qur'an is filled with that kinda thing! filled with it! - 01:39:45
- says, "u wanna prove ths thing's wrong? do this! prove it! go ahead! do it!" - 01:39:50
- filled with that kinda thing - 01:39:55
- thr's an example of it that made a big impression'n it's day, during the lyf tym 14 centuries ago, the prophet of islam. he'd an uncle named abu lahab. that's his nick name. abu lahab. ths man hated muhammad. he hated nythn the man said. he used to watch'em going through the city & if saw'em talking to someone, he waited till dey split up. he go after the man he spoke to & take'em & said, "wht did muhammad tell u? whteva it is, it's a lie! did he tell u day? it's ni8! did he say black? it's white!". exact opposite. whteva he heard the muslim say, he said the opposite. That was the way his mind worked. thr's a little chapter'n the qur'an called lahab & it says abt ths man that he'll never change. it condemns'em to hell (jahannam). u c, if the man'd eva bcm a muslim, the muslim'ld believed that, "now he isn't condemned nymore". FR 10 YRS B4 ABU LAHAB DIED, THAT'S THE PART OF THE QUR'AN & THE MUSLIMS'LD C'M2 ABU LAHAB & SAY, "DO U KNW IT HAS BEEN REVEALED2 US'N OUR BOOK THAT U'LL NEVER BE A MUSLIM. GOD SAYS U'LL NEVER BE A MUSLIM. FR 10 YRS DEY TOLD'EM THAT. ALL HE HAD2 DO'S SAY, "UR BOOK'S WRONG! I WANNA BE A MUSLIM. WHT DO U THINK OF UR BOOK NOW?". That's all he'd2 do. he'd 10 yrs2 think abt it. that's the way he was - 01:39:55
- if s'mbody's ur enemy, u don't c'm & say, "U WANNA PROVE I'M WRONG? HERE SAY THS! C'MN SAY IT. IT'S ALL U'VE2 DO. SAY THE WORDS & I'M WRONG! U'LL FINISH ME!" - 01:41:30
- he never did it - 01:41:40
- c ths's1 of many cases of s'mthn that's offered that could've been falsifiable - 01:41:40
....... muslims r better christians thn christians themselves .......
- i didn't say nythn abt christianity that isn't true. if didn't say nythng abt islam that isn't true unless it's slip of the tongue or s'mthn. I'M SIMPLY TRYING2 REMIND AN INDIVIDUAL, "DON'T CLOSE UR MIND B4 IT'S TOO LATE! DON'T MAKE UP UR MIND B4 U'VE ALL THE FACTS". MOST PPL WHO USED2 BE CHRISTIANS & BCMS MUSLIMS'LL TELL U, "I'M A BETTER MUSLIM THN I USED2 B! NOW I FOLLOW CHRIST I DIDN'T B4!". that's wht i'll tell u!" - 01:42:25
# bible says, "jesus told his disciples whn greet one another, let ur greeting be, PEACE BE WITH U" (john 20:21) - 01:43:00
- he set the example , "peace be with u" - 01:43:05
- who says that 2day? christians? once'n a great while maybe. muslims? whether dey speak arabic or not, dey say, "salamalaikum (peace be with u)" - 01:43:10
# jesus whn he prayed'n the garden of garden of gethsemane put his forehead'n the ground (matthew 26:39) - 01:43:20
- who prays lyk that? christians? or muslims? - 01:43:20
# jesus used2 fast4 more thn a month@ a tym (luke 4:2). who fasts today? christians or muslims? - 01:43:25
- who really's trying2 imitate jesus? - 01:43:30
- "D MUSLIMS INSULTS JESUS & SO ON". how possible do dey insult'em? dey lift'em up! up! DEY CAN'T TOLERATE SAYING BAD ABT HIM!!! - 01:43:40
- muhammad rasulullah (muhammad's the msngr of allah) dey'ld just as quickly say, "isa rasulullah". NO PROBLEM! just as quickly dey'ld tell u that. bcz it's true! dey occupy the same place! - 01:44:00
- IF GOD HIMSELF WANTS2 DISTINCTIONS AMONG HIS PROPHETS, IT'S HIS BUSINESS! NOT OURS! - 01:44:10
- TREAT'EM ALL WITH SAME AMOUNT OF RESPECT! - 01:44:20
....... falsifiable statement .......
- The Qur'an says to the muslims, "u'll always find that those closest who love u'll be the christians rather than the jews" (al-maidah,82). u c 2day, it still stands still even after 14 centuries2 tell'em, "u jews wanna prove the muslims'r wrong? here, the qur'an tells u wht2 do. it says, "treat us better thn the christinas do & we'll believe'n u". it's told the jew, "all u've2 do's start treating muslims very nice. let a few yrs go by & say to the muslims, DOESN'T U BOOK SAYS THaT CHRISTIANS'R BETTER FRIENDS THN WE'R? LOOK, LOOK, WE'R BETTER FRIENDS". but dey never thought of it - 01:51:15
....... what a muslim is? .......
- jew = one who praises god. i'm a jew. i praise god. but i'm not an israeli citizen - 02:05:35
- christian = isn't a christ given name. jesus never said, "call urself christian". That nick name was given yrs after his tym. but, if by christian u mean, one who follows christ, i'm a christian! - 02:05:50
- muslim = muslims rn't. u mean, u rn't arab or s'mthn. it means s'm1 who submits his will to god. i'm a muslim. i submit my wills2 god - 02:06:10
........ jesus is god conception .......
- many christians'r now saying, "jesus's god". whn u ask'em, "wht do u mean?". dey say, "he's god's chief spokesmen. if u spit'n jesus's face, it's the same as spiting'n god's face". i agree with that. no problem! - 02:16:00
- jesus says, "who honors me, honors god". no problem - 02:16:15
- do u mean his fingernails dey'r divine? whn he cut'em & buried'em dey'r pieces of god? - 02:16:20
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